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Andrew Phillips's avatar

Informative, but as so often a tad 'rantergun' (quite possibly intentional I accept)

Ser questrian's avatar

Why do they struggle so much with the civ-nst Vs Ethnat question. It's not a difficult one!

Here is a very simple and obvious answer:

The emergence of our ethnocentrism naturally stems from a shared racial identity, though people of other ethnic backgrounds can certainly nest themselves within this ethnocentric circle or sympathize with it. While it may not be strictly rational to favor those of your own ethnic group, it is not irrational to embrace a group's ethnocentrism once it exists—as it inevitably will, given it is human nature—because it provides protection against the ethnocentrism of others. This does not exclude non-hostile minorities; rather, it recognizes that identity and ethnocentrism are strongest within a majority White British population, defined here as those who self-identify as such and share common ethnic interests.

And when you will inevitably be asked what a white British person is:

When defining what constitutes a "White British" person, the criteria rests primarily on self-identification rather than arguments for genetic purity. The goal is not a biological absolute, but the maintenance of a nation that does not forego its ethnic interests, thereby avoiding vulnerability to outside groups seeking to prioritize their own agendas.

While factors like cultural familiarity and historical continuity serve as important addendums to this identity, they are often secondary (and are relied upon too much by right wing politicians and thought leaders too scared to mention race). Relying too heavily on these nuances can leave an argument vulnerable to "nitpick-style" questioning that seeks to deconstruct the group's legitimacy. By focusing on the simple, pragmatic basis of avoiding tribal and ethnic conflict, the position becomes much harder to argue against. This approach recognizes that without a cohesive majority identity, a society effectively invites the very discord and sectarianism it seeks to avoid

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